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Greetings CMM Manager Forum Folks!I am using a Mitutoyo Bright-A707 CMM with a Renishaw PH10 probe to validate a true position callout, but something does not make sense. If the basic dimensions for the point in question deviate less than.005' for a feature with a tolerance zone of.020', how can the true position deviate more than.030' from nominal?I am confident that I have entered the data correctly in my program, but I have been asked to 'math it out' using the basic dimensions provided by CMM Manager and then compare my results to those computed by CMM Manager; I have also been asked to figure out how CMM Manager calculates true position.So what equation does CMM Manager use to calculate true position?Thanks! Mustek 1200 lp scanner driver download.
This is not so simple. For a point, circle or other point reducible feature we just use the following.2 x SQRT(X² + Y²)This doe not account for Material Modifiers that could inflate the allowable tolerance. Also line reducible features such as cylinders have some extra calculation that identifies the worst deviation of the c-line.There is a common mistake when performing True Position in CMM-M.
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Where exactly are you entering the Basic Dimensions when reporting? You should be entering basic into the area circled in green below. The Feature Report data is not related to True Position calculation in any way.
I found this post looking for an issue we were having reporting a true position. I had recently been to Brighton for the training and there we were told that in order to properly report a true position we would have to report the position of a point.
The trouble I am having/the question I have is: How exactly does CMM manager the true position of a point in 3D space.This thread is helpful as I now know that the second page 'Feature Report' has nothing to do with the calculating of true position. This was confusing because every time I printed the report those were the values that were reported but none of the math worked out and when I told my superiors and machinists that those numbers have nothing to do with the final calculation, they didn't feel I knew what I was talking about. Because there it is in black and white on the report.So here is the real problem: We have a lot of true position call out issues.
I need to be able to tell the machinist what direction he needs to go to get a feature in tolerance. The problem is when I look at the X Y Z values and base my recommendation off of those values reported I should in theory see a change similar.My method is to make a point and then when I report TP on the' Position Report' tab I set the X Y Z values to the true position values on the the CAD/blueprint in relation to the origin I have set in CMM manager. At one point we had X, Y, and Z all within.002 but the true position.010 was still out. That just does not make sense to me.
If everything is within.002 to nominal how can the true position.010 be out? How is it being calculated? I see the yellow triangle, that makes sense, but then how does the leader from the tip of triangle to the constructed point play into it?
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I have read through many threads on this topic but the question is never fully answered. What makes it more difficult is that when we have these true position issues and then we check it manually with trig it the part is in tolerance.If you take a look at this print, is there any reason CMM Manager would have a hard time calculating these true positions?
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Specifically the 3 X.112-40 equally spaced.Thanks in advance, Andy.